Soon the world will discover HRC & Obama are at the center of the Syrian conflict, profited from the Clinton foundation, & ignored ISIS.
Qatar & Saudis donated to the Clinton foundation while HRC was Sec. State. In exchange for the donations, the CIA was sent to Syria (2011). CIA was behind a staged Arab spring uprising to attempt to topple Assad, because he was blocking the Qatar/Turkey pipeline plan.
That was Hector's series of tweets, there was an additional one in which Hector says: "ISIS formed by accident, and spiraled out of control but also provided cover for the Obama/HRC agenda of laudering bribes for the pipeline."
I just want to provide a few additional thoughts as obviously I have been talking about this for a long time and I disagree on a couple points Hector mentions (I don't believe he is being inaccurate purposefully).
First, ISIS definitely did not form by accident. The U.S. surely knew ISIS would be the result as the Council on Foreign Relations wrote back in 2012 that I often quote:
Al-Qaeda is not sacrificing its "martyrs" in Syria merely to overthrow Assad. Liberation of the Syrian people is a bonus, but the main aim is to create an Islamist state in all or part of the country. Failing that, they hope to at least establish a strategic base for the organization's remnants across the border in Iraq, and create a regional headquarters where mujahideen can enjoy a safe haven. If al-Qaeda continues to play an increasingly important role in the rebellion, then a post-Assad government will be indebted to the tribes and regions allied to the Jabhat. Failing to honor the Jabhat's future requests, assuming Assad falls, could see a continuation of conflict in Syria.
Thus far, Washington seems reluctant to weigh heavily into this issue. In May 2012, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta publicly accepted al-Qaeda's presence in Syria (Guardian). And in July, the State Department's counterterrorism chief, Daniel Benjamin, rather incredulously suggested that the United States will simply ask the FSA to reject al-Qaeda. The unspoken political calculation among policymakers is to get rid of Assad first—weakening Iran's position in the region—and then deal with al-Qaeda later.Remember how that article opens:
The Syrian rebels would be immeasurably weaker today without al-Qaeda in their ranks. By and large, Free Syrian Army (FSA) battalions are tired, divided, chaotic, and ineffective. Feeling abandoned by the West, rebel forces are increasingly demoralized as they square off with the Assad regime's superior weaponry and professional army. Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now.A new article put out by Nafeez Ahmed goes into the funding and creation of ISIS from the words of the Turkish police chief in charge of protecting ISIS "rebels":
A former senior counter-terrorism official in Turkey has blown the whistle on President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s deliberate sponsorship of the Islamic State (ISIS) as a geopolitical tool to expand Turkey’s regional influence and sideline his political opponents at home.
Ahmet Sait Yayla was Chief of the Counter-Terrorism and Operations Division of Turkish National Police between 2010 and 2012, before becoming Chief of the Public Order and Crime Prevention Division until 2014. Previously, he had worked in the Counter-Terrorism and Operations Division as a mid-level manager for his entire 20-year police tenure, before becoming Chief of Police in Ankara and Sanliurfa.
In interviews with INSURGE intelligence, Yayla exclusively revealed that he had personally witnessed evidence of high-level Turkish state sponsorship of ISIS during his police career, which eventually led him to resign. He decided to become a whistleblower after Erdogan’s authoritarian crackdown following the failed military coup in July. This is the first time that the former counter-terrorism chief has spoken on the record to reveal what he knows about Turkish government aid to Islamist terror groups.That's no accident, however I do agree with Hector they spiraled out of control which is why NATO is currently trying to herd them all back into Syria where they are supposed to be. Of course the existence, funding, arming of ISIS is far beyond what's important for Turkey, this is about what's important for NATO. Turkey is in a key position and is required for the Qatar pipeline.
So let me just remind you of the chain of events here: The west, failing to get public support for intervention in Syria, creates ISIS instead. ISIS provides the public opinion needed for intervention in Syria and provides a standing army against Assad as the FSA just wasn't up to the task.
The other part I disagree on is that Clinton & Obama are at the center of the controversy. While it's true that given current operations they would be at the center, this as Michael C. Ruppert so accurately discussed in the Truth & Lies of 9/11 is truly just a continuation of the Grand Chessboard.
No wonder the Washington Post is now trying to push the idea that "getting rid of ISIS will make the Middle East worse", eh?
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It's an interesting theory, Richard, but it's pretty thin on evidence and thick on speculation. Erdogan's perfidy is well established but it's more than a reach to conclude that Clinton and Obama backed ISIS.
ReplyDelete"Emails on HRC's private server confirm these tragic events, and Obama & HRC thought they could pardon each other after the election. Little did Obama/HRC realize that an auto-sync feature between Huma & Weiner inadvertently saved the deleted emails on Weiner's machine."
Tell me, how many of those emails have you read? Some? Any? Obama and HRC thought they could pardon each other after the election? Really? That's Sean Hannity stuff. Please, direct me to the emails you contend support this bizarre theory. Tell me what they say.
I've been following, and documenting this theory for years. I have no doubt the emails exist.
ReplyDeleteI wrote about it prior to the Canadian election: http://www.canadiantrendsblog.ca/2015/09/elxn42-breakdown-part-2.html
Back in 2012: http://www.canadiantrendsblog.ca/2012/08/cfr-syrian-rebels-would-be-immeasurably.html
This time last year: http://www.canadiantrendsblog.ca/2015/09/tables-turn-in-syrian-war-effort.html
2013: http://www.canadiantrendsblog.ca/2013/05/did-israel-just-nuke-syria.html
Nafeez Ahmed wrote about the pipeline politics at the beginning of the Syrian war: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/may/13/1
Zero Hedge covered the Pentagon memo showing the U.S. created ISIS: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-23/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-us-created-isis-tool-overthrow-syrias-president-assad
Joe Biden admitted the U.S. (through it's proxies) created them: https://www.rt.com/news/192880-biden-isis-us-allies/
ISIS is al-Qaeda, which it is widely known was created to fight the Soviet Union. They appeared overnight, after John Kerry failed to convince the public (thanks to Russia) that they should bomb Syria: http://www.canadiantrendsblog.ca/2013/09/kerry-accidently-talks-us-out-of-war.html
I could go on and on. I've known this was going on the whole time so have I read the emails? No. I believe Hector, a form USAF officer knows what he is talking about for the most part. The story is nothing new to me, the U.S. created ISIS. The CFR knows it, Putin knows it, the whole world knows it. And its finally coming out in a multitude of areas.
Did you believe all those former US Navy veterans who Swiftboated John Kerry? A lot of Americans were convinced. Tell me, in a country that can't keep anything secret, how did the US manage to keep the lid on the ISIS story? Where are the dozens of whistleblowers, people genuinely on the inside, that would have spawned? And, as for RT, Russia Times, as a primary source, that's kind of dodgy.
ReplyDelete"Tell me, in a country that can't keep anything secret, how did the US manage to keep the lid on the ISIS story?"
DeleteThey never kept it secret- take the time and put the story together. Bit and pieces are all out in plain sight for anyone with eyes to see
"Russia Times, as a primary source, that's kind of dodgy"
Shooting the messenger, any messenger doesn't negate the message
The video of Biden is widely circulated, RT didnt create it, they simply post it. I expect better of you Mound, of all people you should know to evaluate information based on the info itself. Further, as Wikileaks has shown incredibly well, the entire western press is a propaganda machine. You can't say "RT is kinda dodgey" while sucking up everything you see on western media about wars that clearly benefit us, that we are illegally in. U.S. support of ISIS is widely known, don't tell me you've been sucked into the McCarthyism propaganda going on? You should know better.
ReplyDeleteAs for your question RE whistleblowers.. have you not read the Podesta emails? Its now very well documented how the U.S. funneled weapons to ISIS. Right here in this post, I link to a Turkish police chief (Turkey is a NATO ally, and a major part of the pipeline) confessing to supporting ISIS. Heres the question I have for you? How many whistleblowers would it take for someone to actually listen?
ReplyDeleteAlso one more thing, a former state department official has literally taken credit for leaking the documents to Wikileaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM -- Yet no where in the news is this found. Funny eh? It's all "Russia's fault". It's all one big lie after another.
ReplyDeleteHere is an interview Assad just gave, read the full text: http://sana.sy/en/?p=92287 Notice how it fits the facts? Why is it the Russian/Syrian story has remained the same for years while the U.S. has repeatedly changed theirs? The truth doesn't change.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing, I and many others have been talking about this ISIS thing for a long time. The simple fact is, they _didn't_ keep the lid on it. It's just that every time it comes up people seem more interested in asking questions like "well gee how did they ever keep it secret?". If the amount of material provided here doesn't show you that they haven't kept it secret, and that it has leaked out numerous times, then I seriously don't know what will. Perhaps the reason why it hasn't yet breached the mainstream is that no one else is willing to talk about it, and are too busy asking how the gov't keeps its secrets, rather than asking the govt about those secrets themselves.
ReplyDeleteHi Richard:
ReplyDeleteNow you've gotten into my territory :))
I used to have a great deal of respect for Nafeez Ahmed, but, it's been reduced vastly- his framing Turkey for the creation of ISIS is nonsense- While some Turkish persons may have been involved the creation of ISIS was 100 percent detrimental to Turkey and that bears itself out at this time
The creation of ISIS came straight out of Iraq, immediately preceding the 2003 US intervention.
It is a British/US/Israeli creation.
You may or may not recall that Turkey was opposed to the US intervention of Iraq in 03 and disallowed the use of Incirlik at that time..
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2016/10/transcript-of-assad-interview-setting.html
Assad states plainly and clearly that ISIS came out of Iraq-
"President Assad: Part of it is related to what happened in Iraq after the invasion in 2003, where the American army or the Americans in general control everything in Iraq, including the prisons, and the leader of ISIS and most of his entourage were in the same prison. So, ISIS was created in Iraq under the American supervision"
Journalist: It was maybe not ISIS, this period, but Al Qaeda?
President Assad: No, it was called IS, it wasn’t ISIS. It was “Islamic State of Iraq.”
Journalist: Islamic State?
President Assad: Because it wasn’t in Syria at that time. That’s why it was called IS. That was in 2006.
Journalist: 2006?
President Assad: 2006, of course.
Journalist: Already, it was Islamic State in 2006?
President Assad: Of course. In 2006, of course, before the withdrawal of the Americans. That’s why they played either direct role or indirect role in creating ISIS.
ISIS did not come to Syria from Turkey either?
It came to Syria via Iraq.
2013 and the arrival and rebrand of IS/I to ISIS as it moves into Syria
*Meet the Rebel Commander in Syria That Assad, Russia and the U.S. All Fear
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2013/11/meet-rebel-commander-in-syria-that.html
The final capture of the airport in August immediately boosted the prestige of its unruly mastermind Tarkhan Batirashvili, according to analysts—an ethnic Chechen whose warring skills, learned in the U.S.-funded Georgian army, are now being put to use by a group deeply at odds with more mainstream Western-backed rebels.
The jihadi commander has recently emerged from obscurity to be the northern commander in Syria of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Sham (ISIS)
This man came through Iraq and into Syria
And that's when IS became ISIS
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria
The creation of IS in Iraq was written about by myself years ago
ReplyDeletehttp://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2014/06/isis-us-created-stay-behind-using-iraqs.html
CFR AND Al-Monitor
- The roots of ISIS go back to Oct. 15, 2006, when what is known as the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) was established.
-The group emerged in the ashes of the U.S.-led invasion to oust Saddam Hussein as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)
-After a U.S. counterterrorism campaign and Sunni efforts to maintain local security in what was known as the Tribal Awakening, AQI violence diminished from its peak in 2006–2007. But since the withdrawal of U.S. forces in late 2011, the group has increased attacks on mainly Shiite targets in what is seen as an attempt to reignite conflict between Iraq's Sunni minority and the Shiite-dominated government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki”
ISIS was formed in Iraq- Emerging from the ashes of the US led invasion? Nice language. Romantic, evocative language. But, what does it really mean? This tells me the US invaders birthed ISIS.
More in this post:
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2014/06/al-qaeda-awakening-councils-isis.html
And then more
ISIS as smoke and mirrors
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2014/08/isis-smoke-mirrors-giving-cover-now-for.html
In the Assad interview he is citing Turkey as a conduit more then a willing participant
ReplyDeletePay attention to his language
When asked
President Assad: Direct support from the government, of course.
Journalist: With money or with armament?
President Assad: Let’s say, the endorsement, the greenlight, first. Second, the American coalition, which is called “international coalition,” which is an American. They could see ISIS using our oil fields and carrying the oil through the barrel trucks to Turkey under their drones.
Notice Assad did not say Yes, with money and arms
He said 'endorsement' or 'green light'
Then cites the presence of NATO more or less
Think about the numbers of NATO bases in Turkey- Turkey like Canada is NATO occupied territory..
Chock full of bases
And long term relationships between NATO and certain aspects of Turkish military- but not all
Erdogan's endorsement was not required
Hope you don't mind?
And no offense intended
Sorry Penny I have been away.
ReplyDeleteYes, you are correct they were a NATO conduit. I've also written about the shipments thru there. As I recall Nafeez doesn't say they were created in Turkey, indeed he himself has written numerous times about their creation in Iraq by the U.S./Israeli/British. But the geopolitical tables, they are a changing.
Sorry I can not write more about this at the moment as I must author a new post.
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